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Post by Caroline Luley on Sept 18, 2011 13:35:44 GMT -5
I am very happy so see so many talented people on my forum discussing these important cases! Thanks, Ann, but you are welcome. I hope this brings in new information that could help somebody find Lauren. I deleted this last post because it was spam. Anyone who leaves links to websites selling shoes, tshirts, whatever whatnot, I will delete them. This board is for the discussion of these important cases and not for sales harpies. So I will make sure they all disappear, I promise you. Keep up the good work, everybody! I am proud of all of you who are brave enough to get out and try to find this girl. Bravo!
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Post by Serenity on Sept 19, 2011 20:42:53 GMT -5
I live in Martinsville and everytime I drive by a location fitting the discriptions mentioned in earlier posts, I have to wonder if Lauren would be at any of them. Last week I went to Rogers Group. It's a gravel company. I had bought something from an employee there. The road there is a road that is very long with nothing there for about a half a mile that ends near trees. There is a constant humming of the machines that pour the gravel and sand with large piles of dirt, gravel and sand everywhere. The train runs very close to this location as well. Also, I wonder if the help find Lauren signs everywhere could be confusing your images of where she could be?
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Post by Ann on Sept 20, 2011 9:34:34 GMT -5
Serenity, No, I am not confused about anything. What you describe sounds very plausible to me...I bet POLICE are reading this forum....they should check out this place you just spoke of. especially if there are out buildings or sheds on that road...where there is constant din or machinery! If I lived in Martinsville I'd go there myself and look around...that young woman is not just lying on the ground somewhere....I feel she is concealed pretty well. Also I don't feel she is in water of any kind. She was NOT buried in a grave of any kind.
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Post by Serenity on Sept 20, 2011 21:25:55 GMT -5
You had mentioned tan out buildings and yes there are tan buildings there. This company if fairly large and covers quite a bit of ground. The area I went to last week was at the furthest end and was a bit creepy driving back to it because the road is in poor condition and there is nothing around but piles of sand, gravel etc... I am sure they would not allow just anyone to go looking around this area as it is dangerous with concrete trucks and dump trucks driving around. I went straight to the office there. There are numerous signs as well. This company is just at the end of town in Martinsville before you head to Bloomington where Lauren lived. There are no houses around this area and very little traffic other than dump trucks. I've printed off earlier posts to give to a friend who's husband is on the Sheriffs dept. I don't think they take it serious enough.
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Post by Ann on Sept 21, 2011 4:24:10 GMT -5
Serenity, It's a shame the deputy doesn't listen to you because it just MIGHT yield Ms. Spierer's body! I DO feel it is a secluded place...and that the little out building is not frequented much. The FEEL of sand and gravel all around...maybe near train yard, machinery din, people drive around the spot, but it's not a hub of activity, and that particular shed doesn't see much traffic at all. The location in terms of proximity feels right to me, When I did my first Divination the word MARTINSVILLE was uppermost, APPEAL TO POLICE IN THIS AREA: Please check this spot out, go look at the out buildings on this road...look INSIDE things....she is not out in the open! I KNOW there are some open minded police out there: we need you! Thank you, Serenity, for your input!
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Post by Serenity on Sept 21, 2011 7:11:20 GMT -5
I can pass on the posts to different officers to see what they think. Also, Lauren's family has a website and the information could be passed on to them as well. I could also contact the lady I spoke with last week at that company. My husband is all gung ho to go looking around Rogers group now that you have a strong feeling about this. He said we could get permission to look around there. I will keep you informed.... Anyone else from around this area, feel free to do the same.
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Post by ann on Sept 21, 2011 8:39:26 GMT -5
Serenity, Yes! DO pass the post around to other officers...it only takes ONE officer to be open minded and consider it...I have a good feeling about you...and it's great that your hubby will check out Rogers Group...Isn't this great that we can work together as a team....a Medium, you doing the legwork, and a common site on which to correlate facts and ideas. In this day and age when people are murdering people, pedophiles abound and humanity can be so cruel to one another, here we are, in a spirit of co-operation and brotherhood, TRYING our darndest to help each other find JUSTICE and create some closure and peace of mind for the families who have been touched by crime and violence. Thank you, Caroline Luley for providing this space for us to communicate, and thank you, Serenity, for taking active steps to help this young woman's family. I will do my part to help the Spierer's. I truly hope some of my clues to the detectives will be helpful in finding her. God bless us all in the attempt....even if we fail....because INTENT is everything....
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Post by J on Oct 12, 2011 0:33:46 GMT -5
I am not a psychic and don't know if this means anything, but I dreamed of Lauren in June when she disappeared and then again recently. For some reason, I get this nagging feeling that the details are significant. In my dream, I am helping to search for Lauren. I am on the dive team (I don't dive) and we find this underwater structure. I swim into the structure and within a bedroom, under the bed, I find the body of Lauren. I know that it is believed that she is not underwater so I wondered if this might apply to the perpetrator. I know IU has an underwater science department. This may be nothing, but I really felt the need to share it.
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Post by Ann on Oct 17, 2011 5:46:55 GMT -5
Good day people, An additional clue to the Spierer case is that somehow, MOCKINGBIRD LANE is pertinent. I am not familiar with this address....are any of YOU? If Law Enforcement is listening here, please check that location combined with the other clues I have presented on this site!!
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Post by ann on Oct 25, 2011 2:21:46 GMT -5
Possibly there are Willow trees near the site where Lauren lies.
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Post by fritzybaby on Oct 26, 2011 3:16:13 GMT -5
I wanted to post this to the baby Lisa thread but could not find it. I agree with you on your 10:30 pm chart that the 1Hr Mercury positioned in the 5H shows the mother going to the child. In your opinion could the 9H ruler Saturn positioned in the child's 1H indicate that a (9H/stranger) went to the child? Or since Venus is moving away from Saturn would the Moon applying to Venus ruler of the child show a better connection? Lee
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Post by my2sun on Oct 26, 2011 20:27:56 GMT -5
Great thread and I see she hasnt been found. Years ago a freind of mine and I used to put the pieces of a crime together like you gals did and then try to tell someone. I still have the emails documented with time stamps and people do not listen. Was anyone ever able to get through to the family with this information?
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Post by ann on Oct 29, 2011 6:33:17 GMT -5
Good people, Lauren Spierer's body may be in a BOXCAR, but NOT in a trainyard as such. I feel she may be OUTSIDE of Bloomington....perhaps as much as 32 miles away from Bloomington....Does this description ring true to anyone out there??
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Post by Tammy on Dec 25, 2011 15:14:24 GMT -5
I live in Columbus, Indiana and a train runs through our town in many places. There are train cars in alot of the businesses that would have engine sounds, like the steel yard for example. Also wanted to note that we have a water street, and a few miles out of town a place called Anderson falls. The falls doesnt run all the time due to low water. We are about 32 miles from Bloomington. also i dont know if they have steel yards in bloomington but here in columbus they have lots of dumpters that they pick up steel from factories ,some just set and rarely get moved and they also have train cars sitting in there and also cars that are to be crushed to be put in the train car.
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Post by ann on Jan 2, 2012 8:16:53 GMT -5
Tammy, Please forgive me for not answering sooner. There are multiple deaths occuring in my family and I have been side-tracked. When things settle down...I'll get back to this forum.
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