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Post by redrose on Jan 11, 2012 13:44:40 GMT -5
I have followed Caroline's Forensic Chart posting on her site and have received the first chapter of her new e-book. And taking what Caroline has written I will try my hand at my first chart. If any one who has more experience than I please jump in and correct me or add your 2 cents please. It would be appreciated. Thanks. And thank you Caroline for taking the time to write this e-book at a more than fair price.. It is greatly needed. By following Caroline's tutelage my first chart will be Robert James Brown. This young lad was age 12 when he went missing from Pefferlaw, Ontario Canada. On August 3, 1968 Robert's mother took Robert and his baby sister to Georgina Beach for a day of play in the water and sand. From there she drove the two youngster's to the The Nazarene Camp located in the Village of Wilfred, Ontario, where she was a volunteer. At approximately 4:30 PM Robert's mother allowed Robert to walk from the Camp in Wilfred to his home in Pefferlaw to do his Newspaper delivery. This is the first time Robert was allowed to walk home from the camp on his own. The distance is about a two mile walk. When Robert did not show up for dinner his father and brother went looking for him and found his Newspaper's still in a bundle at the curb. There is a discrepancy in the last time seen. When the Georgina Township Police Service interviewed people at the beach and the Parking lot attendant they said they saw him there at around 4:30 PM. One of the witnesses says that they saw him talking to an unknown boy at the corner of Pefferlaw Rd., and Hwy 48. Robert's brother who was riding in a vehicle with another family saw his brother walking and he had just made the turn toward Hwy 48 from the camp road. There were air, water and land searches but to date Robert has not been found. At the time Robert, known as Robbie, went missing he was wearing a Plaid, red and black shirt; blue jeans and black work boots with his bathing suit under his clothes. Robert's Date Of Birth 5/28/1956 I have started the chart for 4:00 PM. For those wishing to buy Caroline's e-book chapter one here is the link forensicastrology.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-ebook-on-forensic-astrology.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FYwcN+%28Forensic+Astrology%29
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Post by redrose on Jan 11, 2012 15:36:16 GMT -5
Okay not a very good start by inputting the wrong day! I have learned a valuable lesson.......double check......and triple check the input data! Attachments:
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Post by redrose on Jan 11, 2012 15:50:22 GMT -5
Whew............ close call there! The above chart has the correct data. I have a question: What is the difference between using Astrolabe and Astro123 and why? Attachments:
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Post by redrose on Jan 11, 2012 16:23:16 GMT -5
Okay deep breath and here goes using Caroline’s teaching.
Taking an overall look at the chart the first thing I notice is there is a Yod. Which as I understand it to be is the ‘Finger Of God’ or ‘what will be will be.’ So to my way of looking at this is; whatever happened to Robert was meant to be and he was only suppose to be here on earth for a short period of time, which is 12 years.
The sign Jupiter is rising at the time of 4:00 PM and can be found in the 9th house at 08 degrees. As I understand it to be Jupiter rules young adults so this is the marker for Robert. This tells us that Robert is out and about in the great outdoors possibly along a major road. Even tho Jupiter is in the 9th it rules the 6th, which is Virgo. The moon which is the co-ruler of this chart is in the 1st house and rules the 9th house. Which says that Robert is where he wants to be, doing what he wants on his own free will. Robert is ill, not feeling well, (the 6th illness and work, because Robert was out in the sun and water all day he may have had a touch of sun stroke, I checked what the weather was like that day and it was hot and Robert had been with his mom and sister at the beach from early in the morning until late afternoon, and with moon in first it may be he has a headache. Also with Jupiter in the 6th which is also work we know that Robert was walking to his work to deliver his newspapers.) The sun is in the 8th house at 11 degrees and Robert is under the Sun’s beam’s, within the degrees specified in Caroline’s e-book. And the moon is squaring Jupiter, which is Robert.
I don’t think Robert was murdered, kidnapped hit by a car or anything like that, I think Robert met his fate by misadventure.
I don’t know how I came to that conclusion, so I will have to backtrack how I did that and why I think that.
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Post by redrose on Jan 11, 2012 16:30:32 GMT -5
I have a question: Is a disposition, or depositor used after the disposition the planet which rules that house or something else? I didn't quite understand that in the e-book, which was really one of the simple things to do.
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Post by redrose on Jan 12, 2012 20:07:06 GMT -5
Okay I’m back and eating crow. I was wrong about my conclusion. I have now reread Caroline’s teaching e-book while looking at Robert’s chart. And I have been able to answer my own question’s. Duh.
The planets in the angular H’s are, The moon in the 1st H, Chiron in the 4th H, no planets in the 7th H, and Uranus in the 10th H up near the MC.
The sign rising on the Eastern horizon at 4:00 PM is Jupiter which is found in the 9th H ruling the 6th H. Jupiter portrays Robert and Jupiter is the sign of young adults, while Mercury rules young(er) children. I know that Robert was out in the sun and water and sand all day on the beach with his Mother and baby sister and it was a very hot day, before they all drove to the Nazarene Camp, a religious camp across the road from the Nazarene Church, and that the family was very religious. And I know that Robert’s Mother allowed Robert, for the first time to walk home alone, which is approximately 2 miles to his house to make his newspaper delivery. I know Robert had changed his mind about walking home. He decided to wait for his mother and get a ride home, but then his mother, who was a volunteer at the Camp, would be too long before she left making Robert late delivering his newspaper’s, so he once again changed his mind and started out walking for home. I know that Robert played Hockey and was a well liked young man by his peers, with a lot of energy and outgoing, but was also a handful, disobeying his parents and doing what he wanted even when his parent’s said no, so many a time he was in parental trouble. So this chart is working because the 9th H rules, the great outdoors, long major highways, religion. And the 6th H rules work and Robert was on his way home to work, by collecting his newspaper’s to deliver. The 6th H also rules illness and I think Robert had a touch of sun stroke, and with the moon in the 1st H, this can also say that Robert had a headache. The moon, which is the co-ruler of this chart is found in the 1st H ruling the 9th H. and squares Jupiter and is under the Sun’s beam’s as well as Jupiter. With the moon in the 1st this tell me that Robert is going about his business doing is own thing freely. The next person Robert is about to meet is Venus, (maybe the perpetrator of Robert’s demise?), which is found in the 9th H in front of Robert, ruling the 5th H. So Robert is walking along a major highway in the great outdoors when in front of him he meets someone or runs into someone who is also nearby walking in the great outdoors either near the major road or on it. Since Venus is in the 9th H but Rules the 5th house of children .
Sitting in the 5th H is Saturn, getting ready to enter the 4th H. Saturn rules the 1st H, telling me that Robert ran into an authorial person whom he considered a friend and had power over him in some manner. Was this Robert’s Hockey Coach, or a sports coach? A teacher? A neighbour? With 2 planets, the sun, and mercury sitting in the 8th and ruling the 5th house of children, with also Venus in the 9th ruling the 5th I think this man had something to do with children, or was around children a lot. I also think that with Mercury on the descendant, and Mercury rules Gemini which is a dual sign that this person had two different faces, meaning one he showed in public and another he showed in private, a dual personality perhaps? Gemini also rules newspaper’s, and Mercury communication, could Robert have walked straight into his boss? The person who delivered the papers to the kids houses and was just out walking? There is no vehicle showing up in this chart. With Saturn in the 5th H ruling the 1st H, this man had a fiery temper, both the 1st and 5th H being a fire sign. Also Saturn is squaring mars in the 8th H, ruling the 4th an angular H. With the 9th H also being a fire sign and with Uranus sitting in the 10th H up near the MC ruling the 6th H, did tempers flare between the two of them? Uranus is the planet of Sudden and unexpected. Uranus is Opposing Chiron in the 4th, Chiron being the wounded warier. I am unable to see any sex stuff going on, so I think this had to do with tempers flying and Robert ending up with the brunt of this man’s temper. Maybe an accidental death? With Saturn in the 5th H getting ready to move into the 4th H, did this event take place near the perp’s home or Robert’s home or is it just showing the end of the matter, when Saturn enters the 4th H at 4:15 PM? And the moon getting ready to enter the 12th H? With Mars sitting in the 8th H ruling the 4th H, and Saturn in the 5th H about to enter the 4th, I think Robert passed this man standing outside his home, maybe in Robert’s own neighbourhood, (Robert lived in a very, very, small town, just on the outskirts of the town on the Main Drag, or road. But it was summertime with tourist’s flocking to this water beach town.) Did Robert stop to talk to this authority person whom he considered a friend who was standing outside his house and temper’s flew, Mars energy and aggressive combined with a fiery temper? for whatever reason and Robert ended up dead? Neptune is sitting smack dab in the middle of the 12th, Squaring Venus in the 9th H carrying on to Saturn with a trine. Does this mean that the perp is carrying a hidden secret which will never be told? I don’t know the rest of this story until Caroline comes out with her other Forensic Astrology e-book and I study it to complete this chart, with; Where can Robert’s bones be found? And some other stuff I know I missed.
How did I do? Anyone? Say something. Please
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Post by redrose on Jan 13, 2012 16:33:28 GMT -5
Okay. Now that I've done all of the above..............this is not easy folks! I darn well forget the planet on the descendant side of the wheel. Drats.
Which is Gemini and Gemini is ruled by Mercury. Mercury is found in the 8th H at is at o7 degrees. Sitting behind mercury is the sun at 11 degrees in the 8th H. Which meas this is a combust?
In front of Mercury is Mars which has a square to Saturn. Which means......... I've screwed up. Back to the drawing board.
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Post by redrose on Jan 13, 2012 21:16:01 GMT -5
I see I'm still here talking to myself.
I've pondered this descending sign Mercury, which is found in the 8th house. Does this mean that this man is a killer of children? And has killed children before? Because Neptune is in the 12th H but rules the 8th H. Which means..........what?
If Mercury is disposed of by it's home planet , Pluto which is found in the cusp corner of the MC in the 9th house, with Neptune making a sextile to Pluto this is making an event easier and more mysterious. I think. Sitting beside Mercury in the 8th H is mars ruling cancer. Which I think means That Robert met this person at his home as he passed by?
Since Mercury is descending and this shows Mercury as the perp, is this saying that the perp is a young person around the same age as Robert? But Saturn, in the 5th ruling the 1st H, doesn't this mean that this is an older, or elderly person, since Saturn rules old? Or does Saturn just mean another person came on the scene which is a young person? Since Mercury rules children, young children.
There are 6 conjuctions in this chart.
1) Pluto conjucts the MC 2) Uranus conjucts the MC 3) Uranus conjucts Pluto 4) Moon conjucts Jupiter, the subject. 5) Sun conjucts Mercury 6) Chiron conjucts
Which means............back to the drawing board.
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Post by latenightrn on Aug 22, 2012 1:59:12 GMT -5
You were doing okay, why did you quit?
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Post by redrose on Nov 2, 2012 2:15:56 GMT -5
I haven't really quit. I'm waiting for Caroline's part 2 to come out.
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